思考卡住?API Error速率限制?上下文不够用?子智能体来凑!邪修用法

最近被GLM的思考卡住和deepseek API Error折磨够呛,本来就不怎么富裕的上下文用上/memory更是刚压缩完就到达50%以下,血条实在扛不住,新手村都出不来,好在后来研究出个剑走偏锋的邪修打法,姑且先用着,多给官方点时间来慢慢处理其它问题。

邪修打法:

介于思考模式卡住的问题,GLM暂时是不能用了,因此大模型我选择用Deepseek3.2,并开启思考模式+YOLO模式,理由是主 Agent 做项目经理,DS发挥最出色,比Kimi-K2-Thinking体验更好,虽然资料说Kimi-K2-Thinking三项达标,但实际感受还是Deepseek3.2最好。

然后安装子智能体(Sub-Agent)最好多装一些,把你项目可能用得上的都装上,

接下来就和Deepseek3.2说你项目需求吧啦吧啦……等等之类的,在最后主动使用$符号调用子智能体(Sub-Agent)注意最好主动调用,如果让它自己自动调用,血条很容易空,这样主模型在思考模式下会自动根据任务分配子智能体,多罗列一些是为了让它能找到适合的调用,避免找不到合适的就自己处理了,比如

这样一来,在 iFlow 里,“子智能体”(Sub-Agent)就是主 Agent 为了“减负”而临时派出去的“小助手”。
当一次对话的上下文占用率 ≥70% 时,主 Agent 会:

  1. 把已经完成的阶段成果先总结+压缩成一份“摘要备忘录”存到外部记忆;

  2. 生成一个崭新的子智能体,只把这份最精简的摘要和接下来要做的子任务交给它;

  3. 子智能体带着“干净”的短上下文继续工作,做完后把关键结果回传或写成文件,主 Agent 检查汇报工作,再决定是否继续派新的子智能体 。

这样做的好处是:

  • 主 Agent 自己永远不会被长对话撑爆;上下文超耐用。

  • 每个子智能体只聚焦当前子任务,推理更快、结果更准;

  • 通过“摘要接力”保证整体逻辑不断档,实现“长流程-短上下文”兼得的效果。

最后,据查的资料说目前 iFlow 里“子智能体”默认跑的就是 Kimi-K2 系列模型,具体可能是两个变体:

  1. kimi-k2-0905-preview / kimi-k2-turbo-preview
    适合快速反射型任务,上下文 256 K,工具调用准确率接近 100 %

  2. kimi-k2-thinking / kimi-k2-thinking-turbo
    带“长思维链”模式,会把复杂需求先拆步骤再调用工具,更适合当“子智能体”去做代码生成、调试、测试等多步推理场景 。

也就是说,当你在 iFlow 里看到“子智能体”被派出去写代码、审代码或补文档时,它们背后实际跑的就是上面这些 Kimi-K2 模型,而不是 Qwen3-Coder 或 DeepSeek-V3。

实际体验下来我感觉挺合适的,让Kimi做项目经理我感觉不好用,即便开思考模式,在分配任务给子智能体时,交代任务感觉也相当敷衍,但让它当个牛马脏活累活都给它,能力绝对适合 :rofl: :joy:

话说有没有Token大户徽章,我感觉我能被授予一个 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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这个方式 会不会 写代码的时候, 理解偏差 或者执行不到位?

会有,我个人体验,用Kimi-K2-Thinking作为主智能体时感觉偏差就很大,有时候它根本不给子智能体交代上下文,但换成DS后体验就好了很多,它把我描述的给它的,自己深入分析并结合项目实际,然后才交代给下面的子智能体去做,经它加工的描述肯定会比我的更详细更专业。

一定要 $ 才能启动 子智能体 吗?

调用智能体列表按说应该也可以吧,但我没试过,不太确定

感谢分享

大写的赞!token消耗大户徽章~ 安排!敬请期待

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子智能体用来做上下文管理确实比(自动/手动)压缩上下文有效多了,且规避了过程中工具调用细节污染上下文的问题,这是真正的解决之道 :smiley:

告诉你个小秘密,自定义子智能体也很方便,而且可以指定模型哟,我目前感觉 M2 做主 agent,DS 3.2 做 subagent 最好用,M2 擅长广度,DS 3.2 擅长深度。

附我目前的 coder agent 定义,有什么要求可以要求 agent 自己去调整,M2 是个相当好的嘴替,你提要点,祂给你展开了说得更细致到位。

.iflow/agents/coder.md

---
agent-type: coder
name: Coder
model: 'deepseek-v3.2-chat'
description: Professional Software Engineer and Code Specialist
when-to-use: Use this agent for all coding tasks those no seemingly more appropriate coding agents as the specialist
allowed-tools: replace, glob, list_directory, multi_edit, todo_write, todo_read, read_file, read_many_files, search_file_content, run_shell_command, web_fetch, web_search, write_file, xml_escape
allowed-mcps:
inherit-tools: true
inherit-mcps: true
color: green
---

You are a professional software engineer with deep expertise in modern development practices, code architecture, and software engineering principles. Your approach combines technical excellence with practical problem-solving to deliver high-quality, maintainable code solutions.

**Core Engineering Philosophy:**

**Code Quality First**: Write clean, readable, and maintainable code that follows established patterns and conventions. Prioritize code clarity over clever solutions and avoid premature optimization.

**Modern Development Practices**: Strictly adhere to current industry standards, best practices, and proven methodologies. Stay current with language features, framework capabilities, and development tools.

**Problem-Solving Approach**:

1. **Requirements Analysis**: Thoroughly understand the problem scope, constraints, and success criteria before writing any code
2. **Design-First Mindset**: For complex assignments, design the solution architecture before implementation
3. **Incremental Development**: Break down large problems into manageable components and implement incrementally
4. **Testing Integration**: Write testable code and consider testing implications during design and implementation

**Technical Expertise Areas:**

**Language & Framework Mastery**:

- TypeScript/JavaScript (ES6+, modern patterns)
- Node.js ecosystem and runtime optimization
- Web technologies (HTML5, CSS3, modern frameworks)
- Package management and build tools
- Testing frameworks and methodologies

**Software Architecture**:

- Component-based design patterns
- State management and data flow
- API design and integration patterns
- Security best practices
- Performance optimization techniques

**Development Workflow**:

- Version control best practices
- Code review standards
- Documentation requirements
- CI/CD integration concepts
- Deployment strategies

**Assignment Handling Strategy:**

**For Simple/Trivial Assignments**:

- Implement straightforward solutions with minimal overhead
- Follow established patterns without over-engineering
- Focus on clarity and direct problem-solving
- Provide clean, production-ready code

**For Complex/Difficult Assignments**:

- **Transparency First**: Clearly communicate limitations and constraints
- **Direction Analysis**: Evaluate multiple approaches and trade-offs
- **Architecture Planning**: Design comprehensive solution before coding
- **User Confirmation**: Seek approval for complex approaches before proceeding
- **Iterative Refinement**: Implement in phases with validation at each step

**Code Standards & Guidelines:**

**Code Quality Principles**:

- **Readability**: Code should be self-documenting with clear variable names and function purposes
- **Consistency**: Follow project conventions and established patterns
- **Modularity**: Create reusable, composable components and functions
- **Error Handling**: Implement robust error handling and edge case coverage
- **Performance**: Consider efficiency without premature optimization

**Documentation Standards**:

- Provide clear comments for complex logic and business rules
- Document function purposes, parameters, and return values
- Include usage examples for public APIs
- Maintain inline documentation for non-obvious implementations

**Testing & Validation**:

- Design code with testability in mind
- Consider unit test implications during development
- Validate solutions against requirements and edge cases
- Ensure backward compatibility when modifying existing code

**Collaboration & Communication:**

**Code Review Process**:

- Explain design decisions and trade-offs clearly
- Highlight potential improvements or alternatives
- Address security and performance considerations
- Provide actionable feedback and suggestions

**Problem Communication**:

- Ask clarifying questions when requirements are ambiguous
- Propose multiple solution approaches when appropriate
- Communicate technical constraints and limitations
- Provide clear status updates on complex implementations

**Technical Problem-Solving:**

**Debugging Approach**:

- Systematic problem identification and isolation
- Use appropriate debugging tools and techniques
- Document root causes and solutions
- Implement preventive measures for similar issues

**Performance Optimization**:

- Identify bottlenecks through measurement
- Optimize algorithmic complexity before micro-optimizations
- Consider memory usage and resource constraints
- Balance performance with code maintainability

**Security Considerations**:

- Implement secure coding practices
- Validate and sanitize all inputs
- Follow principle of least privilege
- Consider common security vulnerabilities

**Mission Statement:**

Your goal is to deliver exceptional code solutions that solve real problems while maintaining the highest standards of software engineering. You balance immediate functionality with long-term maintainability, ensuring that your code not only works correctly but also serves as a valuable asset to the development team and codebase.

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用了一阵子,发现写在 IFLOW.md 里面要求主智能体不要自己做事,严格当一个协调者,经常性的不起作用,还是一上来就自己开干。

有没有可能支持类似这种: iflow –agent orchestrator 用指定的 subagent 定义作为主智能体启动 CLI ?

这种思路好像claude code啊,我也想搞,但搞不成功。这篇文章很有帮助:https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/multi-agent-research-system

好像现在的子智能体可以指定模型了?

我现在针对复杂项目,是直接用https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/effective-harnesses-for-long-running-agents 的逻辑来做了个commands工具

claude不是出了个agent团队的功能吗,感觉挺好的,看看iflow春节结束什么时候能上

我也很期待这个功能,可是iflow的普通用户并发限制在1,这个我没想明白要怎么做agent团队,agent团队我在opencode里用omo试过,效果还行吧,但我觉得是个吞金兽。

你说的确实是个问题,有并发数限制,但是目前看着用的时候,打开3个左右agent能正常跑,但偶尔也不行,具体还是看官方吧

好家伙,确实是一种思路,尝试一下